We're talking the fusion of the two undisputed most powerful fighters in the universe at the time against a fusion of their children. All this going off the presumption that Gogeta can use MUI anyway. (Base Vegito is SSJ3). I honestly dont think goku and vegeta will ever get to that level. ... Whis basically said if … Whis doesn't even try. So it stands to reason that Gogeta would be stronger, even at that point in the story. Since ssb gogeta is Beerus level I don't think UI alone can close the gap. Ultra Instinct Goku VS Jiren debuted in Dragon Ball Super Episode 110, but what if Super Vegito faced Whis? Only one currently whose been able to transform into it is Goku. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! SSJB Goku and Vegeta where much weaker then Beerus individually and together, but fused together they crushed someone stronger then Beerus. Gogeta has no counter to that. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Whis by far. Plus we see how Zamasu was able to keep up with Vegito for the most part or at the very least there was not a massive power gap. We have seen when there is a massive power discrepancy between fighters, like Goku vs Recoome or SSj2 Gohan vs Cell. I also wouldn't say that Broly "almost contended" with him. MUI Goku is barely above UBW Jiren who scales above Beerus. Whis also says this to Vegeta when he fights Beerus in the manga and loses the fight. I never once went after you saying crap or insulting cause we don’t agree (edited by SilverLightning95) 3. Gogeta can last at least ~5 minutes(?) Nope, if you compare how easily whis was dodging broly when he was almost able to contend with ssb gogeta then a MUI gogeta wouldn’t be good enough either, in my opinion he’d only be using 10% or less of his power so maybe a oozaru MUI gogeta could be a solid foe Moderated by: SgtMartin, EpicRaptorMan. » re: MUI Goku vs SSjin Blue Gogeta (DBS Broli) MUI Goku vs SSjin Blue Gogeta (DBS Broli) - Page 5. So that's not really a good metric to go by. Spider-Man, Spider-Man, does whatever a spider can. Whis in the manga stomps beerus with 1 shot, this same beerus that 1 shot Mastered super saiyan blue vegeta. I think that two MUI users in combat would simply fail to land good blows on each other due to them both perfectly dodging and blocking constantly. If he was blood lusted, he could literally win the fight by making sure Goku and Vegeta were never born. Do you think they could contend with him? yeah, and Broly and Gogeta fighting together against MUI Goku would lose. Plus on top of that, Jiren powered up enough swap hands with MUI Goku, putting both of them in this weird Angel/GoD inbetween place. If you can agree with that, I move on to my conclusion. We just have his word that hes more powerful than Beerus. 0. Whis also has time space hax and sealing powers. MUI Goku maybe surpasses Beerus. Thanks and have fun. I know MUI is obviously MUCH stronger than SSJB, but I doubt by that level, and plus Goku and Vegeta were likely more powerful by this point post-ToP I am banking on Gogeta doing the same thing he did to Broly. Everything is going dark, I don't feel good Mr. Stark, hey now, there went the Spider-Man. Thanks and have fun. So if we put it all together, it seems as though Gogeta with MUI is at best somewhat on par with a casual Whis, with not enough power to pose any real threat to Whis if he got serious. re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue quote Vegetto Blue The Saikyo Jump editorial office tells readers: "Frankly, the enemy Goku and co. are up against in this movie is the strongest. He is currently the strongest fusion out there as his mere presence fear all of the Gods of Destruction and the Angels. Basically SSB Gogeta stomped Full Power Broly, who possibly surpasses Beerus. Whis on the other hand has no time limit and I'm willing to bet a hefty amount of stamina. Though I think it is safe to presume that Whis himself can perform Ultra Instinct based on his position as an Angel and the fact that hes the guy who tells us everything that we learn about the technique. Whis has hax powers. And while Whis is trustworthy and I have no doubt that he is more powerful than Beerus, we haven't really seen Beerus exert himself either, so it's really hard to gauge where they'd both fall power-wise going all out. We honestly just dont have enough info to even begin to consider this beyond just guessing, but I'll take what we know and make a guess. He can just rewind time every time Gogeta has an advantage and take that advantage away. There’s never been any showings of Gogeta having a MUI form, lol! The best we have is that both are maybe stronger than Beerus which means they stalemate in power which means Gogeta and MUI Goku stalemate in power which means MUI Goku wins as he has the advantage of thoughtless movement. Whis is not only more powerful in terms of sheer power, he also possesses abilities that far outclass Goku. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. But the other problem, these two would never be comparable fusions anyway. MUI also … Even if Beerus had mastered UI he would still be below Whis as the angels are supposed to be stronger than their hakaishin. Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue - Who is Stronger!? There used to be, but now we know they are the same power, according to new sources that came out in 2018 before the DBS: Broly movie. SO Mui goku will win. The only thing we might be able to confirm about it is that Gogeta could revert out of it by loosing enough stamina since that occurred when Goku was using it, but that could be debatable since we don’t know if Gogeta has perfected it or not. You are indeed where you belong. Now, Gogeta is very, very strong. MUI burns out stamina crazy fast but whis just has it in his natural state. Gogeta Blue and MUI Goku are completely different cases. Gogeta MUI VS Whis : אני יודע שקשה מאוד להגיע למסקנות שכאלו, כי לא ראינו את כוחו האמיתי של Gogeta SSB בFULL POWER, וכמו שאנחנו יודעים יש הבדל שמיים וארץ - 2 Nope, if you compare how easily whis was dodging broly when he was almost able to contend with ssb gogeta then a MUI gogeta wouldn’t be good enough either, in my opinion he’d only be using 10% or less of his power so maybe a oozaru MUI gogeta could be a solid foe, if you compare how easily whis was dodging broly when he was almost able to contend with ssb gogeta. The answer in the end is unknown, since Whis power is basically a mystery at this point. Gotenks got the third weakest version of Majin Buu. So far, only Goku has been shown to use it. I think then it is safe to say that Gogeta is stronger than GF and Broly, but not massively so. It was a quick jab and ended so fast it is safe to say he is much, much more powerful than Beerus. This means that MUI doesn't meet the 2x requirement of Beerus to get into 2-C, but since Gogeta stomped somebody that roughly on the same level as MUI Goku, he should reasonably breach 2-C territory. Big problem here. Broly is probably SSG Gogeta level. Gogeta and Broly both lie on the "Well, he MIGHT be able to defeat a GoD", whereas Jiren was on a level where it was stated "Not even a GoD can defeat him". The thing is we never see Whis putting forth any sort of effort. Ultimately SSB Gogeta is comparable to MUI Goku using Whis statement. Blue is above ssj god. Whis KO'd beerus with a light chop to the back of the head while he was rampaging while half asleep. The Buu fought by Gotenks was not a fusion of the strongest fighters around, it was just Buu absorbing Buu. If we look at Gotenks vs Buu and Vegito vs Buu, it seems like that Vegito was at a slightly higher level however it was a fusion of the strongest fighters around(save Gohan) and they were only slightly stronger than two kids with limited fighting experience. SSB Gogeta is probably above Beerus. Gogeta could fend off MUI, but to be honest, there is not enough info for us to decide a winner. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. To clarify, this was Buu with Piccolo, Mystic Gohan (who was far stronger than Gotenks), Goten and Trunks all together added on top of the power that Gotenks was struggling to beat, and Vegito dominates him. Ssj god allowed goku to actually have a battle with beerus when ssj3 got put down in 2 taps like a child. - Duration: 17:08. Gogeta would need to land at least one huge attack to have a shot here I think, and while it could happen we just dont know enough about Whis' durability to know what it would take to beat him. Even at a low end, that makes it >20,000x. If we look at Gotenks vs Buu and Vegito vs Buu, it seems like that Vegito was at a slightly higher level however it was a fusion of the strongest fighters around(save Gohan) and they were only slightly stronger than two kids with limited fighting experience. Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. Whis can simply just dodge and block until Gogeta separates. Meanwhile, Gogeta Blue stomped LSSJ Broly (who is above Beerus), with the novel even adding he stomped him while holding back a lot. For one thing, UI doesn't really seem to be a massive power increase. I'm giving this to Whis 9/10. He didn't even land a single hit in the fight. Surely not together. Welcome to the forums! I'd say Whis though. I am under the impression that Gogeta is stronger, but by how much is not clear. Neither of them have his dodging ability and every time MUI is used it gets better, in one minute he went from being unable to win against Jiren to manhandling a Jiren that had surpassed his limits. Press J to jump to the feed. Take a second to look at our Beginner's Guide.It contains the information necessary for you to have an easier experience here. Add MUI on top of that, Whis isn't standing a chance. MUI Goku alone rivals most of the Gods power (Including Beerus.) Time travel, time rewind, resurrection, transmutation, matter manipulation and healing powers to name a few. Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed save the entire DBS Multiverse from jeopardy. Rank the most powerful character in dragon ball. Knowing Dragon Ball I wouldn't be at all surprised if the physical toll of Ultra Instinct would decrease the amount of time the fusion would last for. When there is a massive difference in power the fight is over in a punch or two, not an extended fight. This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Just don’t go attacking people cause that don’t agree. Join Community. I dont think hed use it in a normal fight but when pulling out all the stops he could and it breaks everything. I simply cant envisage a way that Gogeta could defeat Whis within the allotted 30 minutes whilst generating so much heat that even a fused body probably wont be able to withstand. A serious question to the people that think Goku is stronger than Gogeta, Dragon Ball FighterZ: Super Baby 2 Trailer and SSJ4 Gogeta Teaser. Mastered Ultra Instinct Gogito VS Zeno! Whis also seem to be amused at Broly, never threatened by him. It was stated that he was able to tap into the form for defense but not for offense. MUI is like a 100x stronger than SSB. This is hard to say because how strong they would be is unknown. Gogeta from super went to another dimension not gt gogeta. He can one shot Beerus, which I doubt any mortal can do. It wouldn’t be hard; it would be impossible. ... Whis claims Belmod is stronger than Beerus (albeit Beerus contests it as a feat of power) So as ridiculous as MUI Gogeta would be even if whis has to try, he’s probably got some major strength that we never would normally see him use. Gt gogeta doesn't. Nope. Now with regard to statements made by a few other characters, During the battle with Zamasu, it wasn't Whis but Shin who says that Vegito might be stronger than Beerus. So we have a situation where we have two MUI users, but one has a 30 minute time limit on his existence and is a mortal generating a fuck ton of heat, and the other is an Angel who to our knowledge has no real weaknesses. He gets solo'd with one finger like Aizen did to Ichigo. What do I have to be hurt about if you think Jiren can beat Gogeta than good for you. Before Goku hit the master form, he was able to avoid all of Jiren's attacks but was unable to do any real damage. So the battle would be FB Jiren and MUI Goku vs SSB Gogeta who can hypothetically use kaioken. 547 Anime Fans. Gogeta base is around SSJ2 Kakarot. MUI Gogito VS Whis & Beerus - Power Levels Dragon Ball Saiyan Z. So MUI Goku was better than Jiren, but not massively so. Whis only dodged SSJ Broly, while LSSJ Broly was the one who fought Gogeta. There’s no proof of that being retconned. Even if Gogeta could match him in power, Whis still has hax. Now, Golden Frieza was able to withstand Broly for at least an hour and Broly was able to tag Gogeta a few times. If they can both use MUI, it's likely just stalemate until Gogeta defuses or explodes due to the toll the heat will be taking on his body. SSJB is 50x SSJG, which is leads and bounds above SSJ3. Gogeta MUI VS Whis : אני יודע שקשה מאוד להגיע למסקנות שכאלו, כי לא ראינו את כוחו האמיתי של Gogeta SSB בFULL POWER, וכמו שאנחנו יודעים יש הבדל שמיים וארץ » re: MUI Goku vs SSjin Blue Gogeta (DBS Broli) MUI Goku vs SSjin Blue Gogeta (DBS Broli) - Page 6. We haven't seen Whis actually exert himself, just training Goku and Vegeta and dodging Broly's attacks with ease. Toriyama said Whis is 50% stronger than Beerus. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Gogeta needs to go in, hit really really hard, and finish off whoever's hes facing in 30 minutes. re: MUI Goku vs SSjin Blue Gogeta (DBS Broli) quote ryans I think regular SSJ Broly is stronger because the novel says so, but i think MUI could beat him due to skill snd reaction. Gogeta is obscenely powerful yes, but MUI is hugely physically demanding and generates an enormous amount of heat, or at least did when Goku used it. If beerus is the strongest god, it stands to reason whis is one of the strongest whatever they’re called. MUI Gogeta wins Yeah pretty much this Roflmao He gave Beerus a light chop to the back of the neck and ko'ed him. Mui Goku, ssjbe vegeta, fp beerus, gogeta blue, gt gogeta, xeno vegito, vegito blue, lssj broly, fused zamasu, ssj3 Kefla, hit, and FP Jiren. Let's move on for a sec. Fusion of Gogeta and Vegito: Gogito! Even if MUI is above UI goku, gogeta blue is pretty terrifying. So how does Whis teach Goku and Vegeta now? Take a second to look at our Beginner's Guide.It contains the information necessary for you to have an easier experience here. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. On the other hand, Vegito fought and almost completely stomped the most powerful version of Buu ever seen in the franchise. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. As for MUI Gogeta that's hard to say. The nature of MUI is that the user can masterfully dodge and attack fully independently of their own thoughts. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. Gogeta is not Vegito, and there is some debate over which is stronger. His battle skills are so sharp he doesn't need to transform into MUI, he's just in a constant state of readiness. Gogeta wouldn't be able to IT out since there would be no ki to lock on to. MUI Kakarot in the T.O.P was exhausted and weakened, so MUI barely lasted, but a fully healed Kakarot could potentially beat Gogeta. Gogeta is not Vegito, and there is some debate over which is stronger. I am under the impression that Whis would win given what we have to work with. Welcome to the forums! Whis is able to one shot Beerus. Also metamaran fusion only lasts 30 minutes, which is something that needs to be accounted for in a fight. MUI Goku > Jiren > SSB Gogeta > Broly Remember when Videl jumped on Gohan's face. Unless UI and MUI gap is as big as ssj and ss blue then gogeta got this. now multiply that by 50. If they're bloodlusted I'm giving it to Whis 10/10 because of his time rewind. Even if Gogeta was stronger (doubtful), Whis could simply teleport him to another dimension and just leave him there. Whis wins. It is stated in the Manga and Anime by the Supreme Kais that Beerus has enough power to destroy the entire universe if he was provoked enough - and it is again later implied that at full power, Beerus would destroy the entire universe. Name one time I attacked you. Whis can even teleport through time. MUI Goku only lasted a minute within the tournament IIRC. This changed when he hit mastered form, and while he was handling Jiren with relative ease, it wasn't like Jiren was being taken out in one or two hits. This more or less establishes the fact that MUI Goku would be stronger than Beerus. 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